To MGS or not MGS?

Does Canada have alternatives to the Mobile Gun System?

A reader (who is in a position to have a personal opinion about things) sent me this link. It’s a look at a possible alternative to the Stryker Mobile Guns Systems (outline in red, below) that the Canadian military is planning to buy.


I won’t go yet again into detail about why the Stryker MGS is a big question mark, not only for the Canadians but for the US military as well. If you want a refresher, check out this, this, this, and this.

In short, the MGS isn’t mobile enough, it’s too expensive, its gun isn’t a good match for the chassis, it isn’t armored well enough, and it’s too tall (as the outline above illustrates). This web page outlines a cheaper, lighter, better-prtoected, more heavily-armed alternative. As usual with this sort of thing, the current system is all crap and the new system is more than perfect. (Acutally, with the Stryker MGS that might actually be the truth.)

Still it’s worth a look. I still think that the Stryker MGS could mount either the 25mm chain gun used on the M2 Bradley and LAV-25 or the 105mm low-recoil gun developed for the M8 AGS. Another alternative would be to go with the AGS, which will be getting some field work in the near future. This proposed alternative also has some good points. Go check it out.


  1. The 25mm Bushmaster won’t fulfill the MGS requirement. It’s supposed to be able to punch a breach hole in a rebar-reinforce concrete wall and perform other bunker busting duties. IIRC, 90mm Mk8 LCTS turret might be more suitable (though I’m not crazy about the gunner, commander/loader, two-man layout).

  2. Instead of the Piranha III/LAV III, I wonder if General Dynamics have thought about adding the 105 mm gun on Piranha IV. It will be a nightmare to roll on and off with all the parts to be assembled on and off everytime, and it would be less cost effective for MGS to be attached on a different model while other families share the Piranha III chasis, but at least it might be more mobile with stability.