Well, what now?

Iranian Missile Boats

Strategy Page:

The Iranian Navy is the one branch of their armed forces that is always in contact with U.S. forces, and would be the first to engage if things got out of hand. The backbone of this navy is a force of missile-armed patrol craft, the modern equivalent of the PT boats that were so famous during World War II. Missile-armed patrol boats made their mark when two Komar-class boats sank an Israeli destroyer in 1967.

If only we had some way to get troops into Iran without needing to make an amphibious landing. Bases and overflight rights for neighboring nations sure would come in handy, but the utter lack of a plan and general cluelessness have left us without an opportunity to attack or even threaten to attack with heavy forces and with no real options regarding Iran.

If only we had thought of this sooner.

Comments

  1. You are kidding, right? Maybe not right on the border, but we DO have troops in two nations bordering Iran…unless we pulled them all out.

  2. A truly suberb execution of dry humor there murdoc! As for the Iranian Navy, I have not been to impressed by there performance. They got wupped in 1988 in Operation Praying Mantis, but maybe they have improved or learned. In the engagment some of these light missile boats were taken out so it

  3. Dan Dont forget we rule the Sea to the South I believe we have gotten OK from Azerbajan and Georgia maybe even turkey to the North Afghanistan East Iraq West that is a box. And dont forget divide and conquer Syria/Iran. Murdoc are you saying that all that time all those speeches when Bush said that this was going to be a long war and that Iraq and Afghanistan were but phases in the WOT and Iraq was just the current battle field of WOT you mean he actually meant all of that? Soon the LLL’s will shift from the ‘thier was no plan’ to the original line of ‘its all a neocon halburton Plan from day one for empire’. I know thier is a hypocracy and 180 turn in thier but they dont have no problem with that kind of thing after all its just ‘nuence’. If I had a TV show I would go back and call everyone of the as*hats (that during the run up of Iraq said Iran was a greater threat should have gone after them or the Norks) on to the show then hit em with the clips and ask what do they think today ‘are you still ready to back that position Sr. Mam.??? It wont happen but a guy can dream huh.

  4. We will not invade Iran. If we invade Iran I’ll eat my shoe pad. We do not have the resources, nor the political will. Iran would have to actually attack us.

  5. Well, if you want to wait until they have nukes AND they’ve used them… I guess you’ll have a pretty good excuse to invade them then…

  6. Salminio, if you do eat your shoe pad, get a video of it and let murdoc post it! lol But I do agree with your point.

  7. Iran would be best brought down from within. The Old Mullahs are the younger generation’s worst enemy. Best that they see us as sympathetic and ready to support them against the Old Mullahs. On the other hand, an invasion could allow the Ayatollah’s to awaken a Persian nationalist solidarity. (Stalin used similar feelings for ‘the Rodina’ during WWII.) Perhaps the Iraqi Shia should ‘unduly influence’ the Iranian youth. They can show Iran that their Iraqi co-religionists can run their own country without giving up the advantages of the secular state…..and so can they.

  8. Iran would be best brought down from within. The Old Mullahs are the younger generation’s worst enemy. Best that they see us as sympathetic and ready to support them against the Old Mullahs. On the other hand, an invasion could allow the Ayatollah’s to awaken a Persian nationalist solidarity. (Stalin used similar feelings for ‘the Rodina’ during WWII.) Perhaps the Iraqi Shia should ‘unduly influence’ the Iranian youth. They can show Iran that their Iraqi co-religionists can run their own country without giving up the advantages of the secular state…..and so can they.

  9. Yes, of course an internal revolution would be best for Iran. But if it was attempted, do you think it would have any possibility of success without significant outside help? Would the military take the revolutionary side, or would they back the Mullahs and slaughter the rebellious youth? I’m afraid most police states as advanced as Iran don’t tolerate dissent and have enough grip on the military to crush it. After all, it’s how they ‘stay in business’. Then again I could be wrong. I really truly hope I am…

  10. I may be mistaken, but I suspect the point the original article was trying to get at wasn’t whether the Iranian navy could resist a US invasion but whether it could do any striking back. Whether it realistically could or not, a potential invasion couldn’t stop it – air and sea action would have to.

  11. ‘–do you think it would have any possibility of success without significant outside help?’ Hell no. So, we shore up the weak links. Preferably by undermining the Iranian military directly. How much love is there between the Revolutionary Guards and the Iranian Regular Army? Nothing like a ‘Mother always liked you best’ to get a group to shiv their brother in the gizzard. Regarding their Navy–..We get real violent. Make it a submarine navy. Biggest problem is the threat to oil shipping through the Straits of Hormuz. Even crappy rockets would scare insurance underwriters, which means we cannot guarantee the Straits unless/until there are boots on the ground within rocket range of Hormuz. Note: status quo right now is barely acceptable. Doesn’t promise to improve any time soon. The ‘Do Nothing’ option may be even less tolerable. Craig Z.