Weird reasoning

Came across this on Dean’s World:

Why I’m voting Democrat in November:
by Andrew Cory

We said we would never forget 9/11. We took a solemn vow over the bodies of our murdered countrymen. It’s been 5 years. Osama bin Laden is still around, still alive, still making videos. I want bin Laden dead. The Republican Party hasn’t delivered. Perhaps the Democrats will…

This seems odd to Murdoc.

A) What’s the Dems’ plan? “Get out of Iraq” seems to be about all I’ve heard about, but even that particular “plan” has been very short of details.

B) What videos?

C) Murdoc still thinks that there’s at least a 75% chance the guy has been dead for quite some time.

I’m not necessarily saying the Republicans have done swimmingly in the War on Terror. I just don’t see that the Democrats have offered anything meaningful in the way of an alternative strategy.

And this declaration by Mr. Cory seems just senseless and pointless.

And as for the Democrats getting bin Laden, a commenter writes:



  1. Funny we were first hit by Bin Laden in 93′ WT that if the VBIED had been placed at the right pillar would have possibly drop the entire tower resulting in THOUSANDS dead more than even 9-11. Our Great Democratic President CLINTON had what 7yrs after that and he never even got the balls to give the order to kill Bin Laden. Arrest warrants are for local criminals not World Terrorist in foreign nations that don’t see our leagal supena’s and warrants worthy to wipe thier a*s with. The Dems truley are out of touch elitist who believe a fantacy utopia on earth were reason and logic dominate all. Unfortunatley Reality is HUMAN NATURE dominates all the world.

  2. Every major military victory was under a democratic government. WWII, WWI. Forget about the fact that Bin Laden walked by on a donkey at Tora Bora – not pulling the trigger when Bin Laden was in the sights of a hellfire missile means that at least one president +had+ this ghost in the sights. Get them in the sights again, and what do you think would happen? Finally , human nature requires we deliver victory. That means we follow the democrat plan to move the troops out to the border and partitition. This will deliver a military victory in ‘north iraq’ immediately because , if my information is correct, Kurdistan is locked down and ready for puss.

  3. I think this explains it. Men’s testosterone levels declined in last 20 years A new study has found a ‘substantial’ drop in U.S. men’s testosterone levels since the 1980s, but the reasons for the decline remain unclear. This trend also does not appear to be related to age. The average levels of the male hormone dropped by 1 percent a year, Dr. Thomas Travison and colleagues from the New England Research Institutes in Watertown, Massachusetts, found. This means that, for example, a 65-year-old man in 2002 would have testosterone levels 15 percent lower than those of a 65-year-old in 1987. This also means that a greater proportion of men in 2002 would have had below-normal testosterone levels than in 1987.

  4. turnerBroadcasting: I seem to remember a rather important victory under a Republican. Ever hear of the ‘Civil War’? Look it up, it was major, trust me. I also remember an ill-advised adventure in Vietnam. Eisenhower refused to let the French suck us into their colonial war in the 50’s. President Kennedy jumped in the 60’s, his successor got us in deeper. Finally a Republican was able to extract our forces with the status quo in place (albeit with a lot of U.S. dollars and air support). Sensing defeat slipping away, Democrats in Congress pulled the plug on all U.S. support – ensuring defeat and massacre of our allies. The Republicans have become the party of idiots who can’t make their free-spending actions match their conservative speech. Since the early 70’s the Democrats have been the party of pussies and no one trusts them on Defense. The idea that they would succeed in getting Bin Laden or anyone else is laughable.

  5. I wouldn’t bring up the War of Northern Agression (‘Civil War’) That, in my humble opinion is one of the biggest blots on the GOP record. Frankly I don’t think either the Despotcraps or the Reprobatcons should be elected for another office. They are too entrenched, too much like royalty anymore…above the law. They should all get kicked out and some new blood voted in. Honestly people, vote anything EXCEPT republican or democrat…preferably Libertarian or Constitutionalist. Either one would be an improvement.

  6. That’s the biggest coup in politics ever. Whites in the South won’t vote Republican because of the Civil War 100+ years ago, and blacks won’t vote for Republicans because they think the Democrats are looking out for them since the ’60s. Apparently one of those two groups is keeping a big secret from the other. It gets weirder because really when the North forced the South to stay in the Union, they essentially began the process of federalization we have today where individuals are oppressively taxed by the US government and the states have little autonomy. Today, however, the Republicans are the ones touting the importance of State’s rights and distributed government, and the Democrats are for central authority. Well, at least the Republicans said that’s what they were for right up until they siezed the reigns of power then they started spending like there was no tomorrow. All that aside, I still think that earlier article explains a lot about this country (and why Viagra sales are so high).

  7. Speaking of 9/11 and bin Laden… One thing that struck me as odd in the days after 9/11 was Bush saying ‘We will not tolerate conspiracy theories [regarding 9/11]’. Sure enough there have been some wacky conspiracy theories surrounding the events of that day. The most far-fetched and patently ridiculous one that I’ve ever heard goes like this: Nineteen hijackers who claimed to be devout Muslims but yet were so un-Muslim as to be getting drunk all the time, doing cocaine and frequenting strip clubs decided to hijack four airliners and fly them into buildings in the northeastern U.S., the area of the country that is the most thick with fighter bases. After leaving a Koran on a barstool at a strip bar after getting shitfaced drunk on the night before, then writing a suicide note/inspirational letter that sounded like it was written by someone with next to no knowledge of Islam, they went to bed and got up the next morning hung over and carried out their devious plan. Nevermind the fact that of the four ‘pilots’ among them there was not a one that could handle a Cessna or a Piper Cub let alone fly a jumbo jet, and the one assigned the most difficult task of all, Hani Hanjour, was so laughably incompetent that he was the worst fake ‘pilot’ of the bunch. Nevermind the fact that they received very rudimentary flight training at Pensacola Naval Air Station, making them more likely to have been C.I.A. assets than Islamic fundamentalist terrorists. So on to the airports. These ‘hijackers’ somehow managed to board all four airliners with their tickets, yet not even ONE got his name on any of the flight manifests. So they hijack all four airliners and at this time passengers on United 93 start making a bunch of cell phone calls from 35,000 feet in the air to tell people what was going on. Nevermind the fact that cell phones wouldn’t work very well above 4,000 feet, and wouldn’t work at ALL above 8,000 feet. But the conspiracy theorists won’t let that fact get in the way of a good fantasy. That is one of the little things you ‘aren’t supposed to think about’. Nevermind that one of the callers called his mom and said his first and last name, more like he was reading from a list than calling his own mom. Anyway, when these airliners each deviated from their flight plan and didn’t respond to ground control, NORAD would any other time have followed standard operating procedure (and did NOT have to be told by F.A.A. that there were hijackings because they were watching the same events unfold on their own radar) which means fighter jets would be scrambled from the nearest base where they were available on standby within a few minutes, just like every other time when airliners stray off course. But of course on 9/11 this didn’t happen, not even close. Somehow these ‘hijackers’ must have used magical powers to cause NORAD to stand down, as ridiculous as this sounds because total inaction from the most high-tech and professional Air Force in the world would be necessary to carry out their tasks. So on the most important day in its history the Air Force was totally worthless. Then they had to make one of the airliners look like a smaller plane, because unknown to them the Naudet brothers had a videocamera to capture the only known footage of the North Tower crash, and this footage shows something that is not at all like a jumbo jet, but didn’t have to bother with the South Tower jet disguising itself because that was the one we were ‘supposed to see’. Anyway, as for the Pentagon they had to have Hani Hanjour fly his airliner like it was a fighter plane, making a high G-force corkscrew turn that no real airliner can do, in making its descent to strike the Pentagon. But these ‘hijackers’ wanted to make sure Rumsfeld survived so they went out of their way to hit the farthest point in the building from where Rumsfeld and the top brass are located. And this worked out rather well for the military personnel in the Pentagon, since the side that was hit was the part that was under renovation at the time with few military personnel present compared to construction workers. Still more fortuitous for the Pentagon, the side that was hit had just before 9/11 been structurally reinforced to prevent a large fire there from spreading elsewhere in the building. Awful nice of them to pick that part to hit, huh? Then the airliner vaporized itself into nothing but tiny unidentifiable pieces no bigger than a fist, unlike the crash of a real airliner when you will be able to see at least some identifiable parts, like crumpled wings, broken tail section etc. Why, Hani Hanjour the terrible pilot flew that airliner so good that even though he hit the Pentagon on the ground floor the engines didn’t even drag the ground!! Imagine that!! Though the airliner vaporized itself on impact it only made a tiny 16 foot hole in the building. Amazing. Meanwhile, though the planes hitting the Twin Towers caused fires small enough for the firefighters to be heard on their radios saying ‘We just need 2 hoses and we can knock this fire down’ attesting to the small size of it, somehow they must have used magical powers from beyond the grave to make this morph into a raging inferno capable of making the steel on all forty-seven main support columns (not to mention the over 100 smaller support columns) soften and buckle, then all fail at once. Hmmm. Then still more magic was used to make the building totally defy physics as well as common sense in having the uppermost floors pass through the remainder of the building as quickly, meaning as effortlessly, as falling through air, a feat that without magic could only be done with explosives. Then exactly 30 minutes later the North Tower collapses in precisely the same freefall physics-defying manner. Incredible. Not to mention the fact that both collapsed at a uniform rate too, not slowing down, which also defies physics because as the uppermost floors crash into and through each successive floor beneath them they would shed more and more energy each time, thus slowing itself down. Common sense tells you this is not possible without either the hijackers’ magical powers or explosives. To emphasize their telekinetic prowess, later in the day they made a third building, WTC # 7, collapse also at freefall rate though no plane or any major debris hit it. Amazing guys these magical hijackers. But we know it had to be ‘Muslim hijackers’ the conspiracy theorist will tell you because (now don’t laugh) one of their passports was ‘found’ a couple days later near Ground Zero, miraculously ‘surviving’ the fire that we were told incinerated planes, passengers and black boxes, and also ‘survived’ the collapse of the building it was in. When common sense tells you if that were true then they should start making buildings and airliners out of heavy paper and plastic so as to be ‘indestructable’ like that magic passport. The hijackers even used their magical powers to bring at least seven of their number back to life, to appear at american embassies outraged at being blamed for 9/11!! BBC reported on that and it is still online. Nevertheless, they also used magical powers to make the american government look like it was covering something up in the aftermath of this, what with the hasty removal of the steel debris and having it driven to ports in trucks with GPS locators on them, to be shipped overseas to China and India to be melted down. When common sense again tells you that this is paradoxical in that if the steel was so unimportant that they didn’t bother saving some for analysis but so important as to require GPS locators on the trucks with one driver losing his job because he stopped to get lunch. Hmmmm. Yes, this whole story smacks of the utmost idiocy and fantastical far-fetched lying, but it is amazingly enough what some people believe. Even now, five years later, the provably false fairy tale of the ‘nineteen hijackers’ is heard repeated again and again, and is accepted without question by so many Americans. Which is itself a testament to the innate psychological cowardice of the American sheeple, i mean people, and their abject willingness to believe something, ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous in order to avoid facing a scary uncomfortable truth. Time to wake up America.

  8. A lack of testicles is one thing, but could you show just the least little evidence of a brain you pathetic moron?