18 rounds of 152mm per minute

152mm_over_under.jpgAnother Double Barreled Over n’ Under…..But Bigger

Brickmuppet tips Murdoc off to this Russian beast:

The vertical twin arrangement looks weird but I imagine it cuts down on the size of the turret ring, which is, I suppose, a big plus for an AFV. It was used in at least 1 other weapon I know of, an Italian 3″ gun from the ’60s, for that reason.

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Comments

  1. Still trying to find the logic of this for an SP artillery system. If it does use an automated shell handling system I would hate to be the gunner. The old T64 MBT had an interesting tendancy to grab the gunner’s thigh and try to ram it into the breach. I can just imagine this one grabbing both of the gunner’s thighs……

  2. Still trying to find the logic of this for an SP artillery system. If it does use an automated shell handling system I would hate to be the gunner. The old T64 MBT had an interesting tendancy to grab the gunner’s thigh and try to ram it into the breach. I can just imagine this one grabbing both of the gunner’s thighs……’ The autoloader is in the turret which is unmanned…no thighs need be harmed in the firing of this cannon. As to application, I’m not an artileryman but 18 rounds per minute might enable 1 vehicle to put more shells downrange simultaneously. It likely still wouldn’t equal 2 regular cannon but might be more versatile and more economical with a crew of 2 plus ammo train. 50 rounds is a LOT of shells to have on mount. But mostly it looks cool.

  3. Ken Talton ahh no the gun crew will be in the turret. As far as autoloading systems I don’t see the advantage of using two barrels in this configuration. The mechanics needed to feed such a barrel configuration automatically might work in a naval mount but I don’t see them being reduced in size enough to fit in an SP artillery vehicle. If I was to take a wild guess I would bet that it’s a non-automated gun system made for a quick 2-3 volleys then move. That silly Futureweapons show had an episode on the new German SP howitzer. It’s rate of fire was actually higher because the loader was manually placing the propellent bags into the breach. I think they were getting 8 rounds per minute. Please remember automated naval gun mounts are a totally different animal.

  4. Forgot to mention. Yes I know the expert says the turrent would be unmanned. So why is there a panoramic sight on the left top of turrent and a gunners sighting system on the left front above the gun tubes? Nothing makes sense on this.

  5. The sighting systems JD refers to may be remote operated or auxiliary in nature. The diagram does seem to indicate that the turret is unmanned though this may be disinformation. I’m a chair bound paper pusher in a sea service…and a temp at that:) so I don’t pretend to understand army artillery. It is possible that the reason for the weapon is to quickly change datum and thereby avoid counterbattery fire. That is, fire several rounds at varying elevations to arrive simultaneously, then get the hell out of Dodge to avoid the incoming unpleasantness that was unleashed with the first round the 2 barrel fired. This might make not having a gun crew particularly good….and might even compensate for the potential autoloader gremlins. I don’t know, they’re Russians, they have seemingly weird ideas that make sense from their perspective. They are not likely to build their kit in anticipation of total, overwhelming tech, air and information superiority. They have never had those things. It also might be an export design intended to impress 3rd world despots with the ‘cool!!’ factor that it certainly posesses. 🙂