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U.S. troops authorized to kill Iranians in Iraq

The Bush administration has authorized the U.S. military to kill or capture Iranian operatives inside Iraq as part of an aggressive new strategy to weaken Tehran’s influence across the Middle East and compel it to give up its nuclear program, according to government and counterterrorism officials with direct knowledge of the effort…

In Iraq, U.S. troops now have the authority to target any member of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, as well as officers of its intelligence services believed to be working with Iraqi militias. The policy does not extend to Iranian civilians or diplomats. Though U.S. forces are not known to have used lethal force against any Iranian to date, Bush administration officials have been urging top military commanders to exercise the authority.

The wide-ranging plan has several influential skeptics in the intelligence community, at the State Department and at the Defense Department who said that they worry it could push the growing conflict between Tehran and Washington into the center of a chaotic Iraq war.

Yeah. I’d sure hate to “push” things with the Iranians. I mean, if we “push” too hard it might lead to a war with them. You know, the war that they’re already fighting against us. We kill too many of them and it might end up looking like we’re fighting back.

Give me a break.

Anyone who pretends that this war won’t involve Iran (and Syria) at some point is kidding themselves. It already involves them directly aiding our enemies. You want to talk about stopping the escalation with Iran? How about we stop Iran from escalating? We asked nicely and it didn’t work.

This would be like authorizing force against Chinese “operatives” who were fighting in Vietnam against our troops.

Oh, wait. There weren’t any Chinese “operatives” in Vietnam. Wink. Wink.

I’m just getting sick of hearing about how some folks are “troubled” that we’re going to “escalate” things by fighting those who are fighting us. It’s almost like they don’t want to win, or something.


  1. Iran has been at war with the United States since 1979. They escalated quite a bit with seizing the embassy and keeping hostages for well over a year while the White House did pretty close to dick. Might have been a good idea to start fighting back at the time. Not only can we not fight so we don’t escalate the situation, we also can’t fight because that would cause the hardliners in Iran to consolidate their grip on power. Not at all the way things are now.

  2. Standing ROE. Right of self defense is always preeminant. If they are a threat, then they are a target. Just another group of foreign fighters in Iraq. Just like the Saudi, syrian, Egyptian, Sudanese, Yemani, etc…

  3. It looks to me, that the 1st opportunity for things should come to a head will in late summer. We are moving Patriot batteries to the gulf states. Mounting patriot missiles on F-15E’s (Since the ABL does not look like it will be ready in time.) The carrier rotation should allow us to have 3 groups in the area. The B2’s should be MOP qualified by then.

  4. We can’t get past the Cold War. We’re still acting like this is Korea or Vietnam and we can’t attack bases in China or Cambodia for fear it might cause a nuclear conflict. Frankly, our policies were stupid then, and are even more idiotic now. Why weren’t we always killing Iranians in Iraq? Why is this just now happening? Why aren’t we going into Iran to destroy supply depots there? Are we paralyzed by fear that we might offend Iran or Syria by daring to enter their puke hole countries without their permission?

  5. A number of good points already made………I won’t belabor them. I will add, while I’m all for taking it to ANY of our enemies fighting us in Iraq or elsewhere, I certainly hope our civilian and military leadership continually emphasize proper target discrimination and have emplaced well thought out and PRACTICAL ROEs or use of force guidelines. I really don’t want to see any of our troops or contractors hassled for capping the badguys when they deserve it, and then face a media induced hysteria about atrocities and warcrimes (though I suspect no matter how legit any such killings are…..the left wing will thrash it to death [pun intended!] anyway). While I’m on the topic……….I had the opportunity to make a number of security runs from Herat (in W. Afghanistan) to Islam Quala on the Iranian border last year. The whole of Western Afghanistan has a strong ethnic Iranian presence, and it was interesting to see the massive quantities of goods and material coming into the Stan. What caught my ‘security eye’ was how much corruption (todays word is ‘baksheesh’ boys and girls) attended the process. I’m telling you…………….what ever the Iranians want to slip into Afghanistan………..they are.

  6. Practical rules of engagement are: Kill anyone who you percieve to be a threat. Would you live otherwise? Would you live in a neighborhood with a neighbor who threatened to kill you? Would you live under the threat of death from someone who was both willing and able to carry out that threat? Like hell any of you would. But you are all perfectly willing to put our sons in that position. That’s f’ing insane. We lose every day. Every day that our soldiers are in Iraq they are more afraid of the Iraqis than the Iraqis are afraid of them. That’s the definition of losing. We lose because we are losers. Losers lose.

  7. Thank goodness DARPA has all new pussy weapons on the way. You’ve heard of plastic puke and dog turds? Now top secret labs are working on plastic ice. I can see it now, just like a scene from the ‘Three Stooges’. Then we can really crack down on these insurgents. We’ll make our soldiers read them their rights and give them a trial and everything. That’ll show them who’s boss. And if it doesn’t, we’ll give them hot flashes. Ever since ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ we’ve gone straight down the toilet.