Ah, just like the good old days

RAF Jets Intercept Russian Bomber

Via a reader:

Two RAF jets have intercepted a Russian bomber over the north Atlantic.

Typhoon interceptors shadowed a Russian Tupolev-95 “Bear” reconnaissance aircraft last Friday.

It is the first time the


  1. The way I remember the ‘good old days’ our fighters had never been waxed by Russian airplanes flying for the Indian Air Force, nor did that seem like a remote possiblity on the horizon. Yet unlike during the cold war, when the U.S. and Soviet Union could regulate the quantity and lethality of the weapons they sold their client states, there is little the world’s sole superpower can do to control this buildup. Not only is Washington bogged down militarily and diplomatically in Iraq, American arms makers no longer enjoy unchecked commercial clout. Since the cold war ended, their share of global arms exports has nearly halved, owing to challenges from rival producers in Western Europe, Russia and Asia. (Newsweek)

  2. dfens, do you think our guys were really beaten that badly by the Indians? I think it was deliberate to get more support for the F-22. All things being equal, isn’t pilot quality supposed to be the determining factor? Given our budget, flying hours and involvement in action over the last 20 years, shouldn’t we have the most experienced pilots. I can’t believe the Su jets are that much better than F-15s and it’s hard to imagine the Indian pilots getting more flight time.

  3. You tell an F-15 pilot to lose a fight against a foreign Air Force to make Precious look good and see what happens to you. Even if what the US force achieved was parity with the IAF, that’s not too good for our side. From what I understand our guys were out of their element with regard to the tactics they had to use. They had no AWACS support and were out numbered. They should expect to be out numbered, expecially when going up against MiG-21s. It was the combination of the MiG-21s and Su-30s that worked pretty effectivly against them.

  4. With the ‘political’ games going on with the brass (think about the stink with Dragon Skin, new rifles for the troops, the F-22, F-35, MV-22, need I go on?) there is no garuntee that they DIDN’T throw the fight…there is also no garuntee that its not a ‘Blue team always had the deck stacked in their favor’ situation either. I have heard many reports of the ‘Blue Team’ having the deck stacked in their favor in exercizes. They couldn’t lose even IF the red team gave them a resounding beating. Usually this is regualr Army VS Reserves or Guard units, but I could see the same thing with the AF. At least thats the rumors and anticdotes.

  5. Look at the quote: Since the cold war ended, their share of global arms exports has nearly halved, owing to challenges from rival producers in Western Europe, Russia and Asia. There is a reason for this. Read the article. We have drastically slowed the pace at which new technology is being introduced. We have sat on our laurals. We pretty much ignore aerodynamics. You tell me, do you think our equipment enjoys the technological advantages it once had? I’m not seeing it. For the most part I’m spending much of my career working on keeping 40 and 50 year old airplanes in the sky. Almost anything new I do is dead on arrival. The way I see it, you can go along kidding yourself and others about our ‘technological superiority’ or you can address the problems that have decimated our superiority. Right now we are faced with the reality of losing a generation’s worth of knowledge and experience. The mean age of aerospace workers is 58 and a quarter of those will be eligible for retirement in a few years. They are not being replaced, they are being outsourced. Now is the time to think about what kind of future this nation is headed toward.

  6. From the St. Louis Post Dispatch today: Since the advent of agreements such as the North American Free Trade Agreement, the United States has lost hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs to countries that pay little more than lip service to worker protection and environmental standards. For the most part, corporate America has responded with yawning indifference, arguing that U.S. workers need to ‘adapt and evolve’ to a changing global marketplace and to retrain themselves for skilled jobs. The result has been the decline of many communities across the country as jobs move offshore and tax bases dissipate. These days, there seems to be no winning, for even where American workers have honed the most advanced technological skills anywhere in the world, our government still seems poised to kick them in the teeth. The U.S. commercial-aerospace industry, the envy of the world and the last stronghold of American manufacturing, is a prime example.