C-130J News

A couple of items recently on the C-130J.

c-130J comparison

India buys Lockheed planes, US sees breakthrough

India has agreed to buy six Lockheed Martin Corp (LMT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) C-130J military transport planes in a breakthrough deal with the United States worth about $1 billion that opens a door to closer strategic ties, U.S. officials said on Tuesday.

India and the U.S. signed an agreement on Jan. 31 for Lockheed to start delivering the four-engine Super Hercules turboprop aircraft in 2011, said Bruce Lemkin, who handles U.S. Air Force international affairs.

The deal marks a major shift in weapons-buying policy by India, which for decades has relied heavily on Russian arms and transport aircraft.

There had been some doubt as recently as a few weeks ago whether this deal would really go through.

C-130J off to war, opens new Air Force chapter

Capt. Ben Robins raised his hands in the air and cheered from his perch on a concrete barrier near the edge of the Little Rock Air Force Base flight line Monday as he watched the C-130J slowly roll toward the runway.

Shortly before 6 p.m., as the evening sun set the sky ablaze with streaks of pink and orange, Lt. Col. Dan Tulley, 41st Airlift Squadron commander, coaxed Tail No. 3145 airborne, the first C-130J cargo plane in the active Air Force to deploy to war.

There’s nothing like using something in the real deal, though I wasn’t aware that no C-130Js had been there yet. Maybe Js with the AF Reserve or Air National Guard have served in the combat zone already?

Meanwhile, last month the Canadians also decided to go with the J: Lockheed Martin Receives $1.4 Billion Contract for 17 C-130J Super Hercules Aircraft for Canada

But I’m not sure why the Indians are paying $1 billion for six while the Canadians are paying $1.4 for seventeen. The Canadian number comes out to $82 million per plane, which is probably about right. The Indian number is $166 million per, which cannot be correct. Or, at least, it cannot be right if we want them to buy more from us later. Both news stories indicate that related equipment and support costs are included, but maybe the Indian contract has a lot more of that stuff?

Comments

  1. That number includes training and support. The Canadians already have a training and support infrastructure for that airplane since they’ve been flying them for decades. They’ve flown the wings off the aircraft they have. India has never had C-130s and therefore will need to spend much more for the support infrastructure. Rumor has it the USAF is planning on buying over 100 Js pretty soon. The Marines will probably buy some more too.

  2. Quote from 16 Oct 2006 AF news article: :AMC first deployed two C-130Js to Southwest Asia from December 2004 to March 2005 and the aircraft exceeded expectations. During that deployment the mission capable rate was 93.1 percent during 1,381 hours flown. Subsequently, four C-130Js have been continuously deployed to the AOR since June 2005, flying more than 7,844 hours while achieving a mission capable rate of 84.2 percent. ‘

  3. You might wish to check the date the Australian’s have been in the Middle East with their C-130J’s. They’ve been there since before December 2004. UK and Italian C-130J’s were definately in the Middle east before then too. Hate to say it but I think the USAF were the last (excepting maybe the Danish).