Comments on: Border Insecurity

By: coolhand77

coolhand77 — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:56:00 +0000

We would be at fault, wouldn’t we? Thats not the point. We ARN’T doing that, THEY ARE invading our territory. Good neighbors my ass, they voilate their treaties with us all the time and we just whine and bitch about it. Next time they slap us in the face like that, its time to punch them in the nose, and draw a little blood. They made contact FIRST. Like I told the last guy who punched me first, ‘MY TURN’.

By: Sam

Sam — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:49:00 +0000

Just curious, but if US military or LE persons were to be caught entering Mexico illegally in a similar manner, (mexico’s law of course) and an ensuing fight killed the Americans, what would you say then?

By: thebronze

thebronze — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:40:00 +0000

Murdoc, I agree 100%! They need to be taken out. Regardless of whether they’re Mexican soldiers or narco-terrorists, they’re confronting US LE and they need to be dealt with, in a lethal manner. Spot-on to Coolhand!

By: Murdoc

Murdoc — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:22:00 +0000

James: Lets be blunt here. There is no realistic way for the US to seal the border without Mexican assistance. Assistance from the guys crossing the border and drawing on our Border Patrol? Assistance from the guys who help direct crossers to spots they know to be open? Assistance from the guys who do not appear to have the interest or inclination to do anything to help? Those guys?

By: coolhand77

coolhand77 — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:19:00 +0000

First of all, the Mexican government has been claiming that these are not their troops, which means they are armed criminals threatening our law enforcement with heavy firepower. You know, terrorists? Frag them. Then sift the remains. If they are Mexican military, then Mexico HAS to admit to crossing our border illigally, in voilation of treaty and either stop it or we go to war. If they are the drug cartels, then we can declare them terrorist invaders and tell Mexico, to step aside or we will declare them enemies just like we did the Taliban and Iraq, and clean their clocks too. Second of all, various factions in the US (made of illigals from mexico) and in Mexico have been claiming that the south west US is theirs anyway, and that they are going to take it back. You do the math on that one. On a more general level, if we are unwilling to respond with force to an armed, threatening, border incursion, what does that say to a potential invader? They are testing our resolve. Time to show them how resolute we can be. Frag them.

By: Nadnerbus

Nadnerbus — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:14:00 +0000

I have to say that seems to me like overkill, literally =) To play devil’s advocate, I would not be surprised to learn that drug runners dress up as border patrol agents. And despite the article stating the border fence was clearly visible, maybe the troops were disoriented and really didn’t know where they were. Or perhaps they thought a border breach would be forgiven if they netted a bad guy. Perhaps I’m displaying my naivety, but what does Mexico stand to gain by intentionally violating the border, militarily that is? We all know they are deliberately encouraging the citizens to violate the border, but I don’t think anyone is advocating air strikes on illegals, yet anyway. Ratcheting up the response like that to an armed incursion with plausible, if not entirely likely excuses would just make the situation worse. As it is, the Mexican government is fighting a drug war that amounts to an insurgency, a war funded in large part by American drug money. I’d prefer to keep things calmer as long as the situation seems to warrant it. But then I might be showing my ignorance to deeper matters I am unaware of.

By: 11Bravo

11Bravo — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:12:00 +0000

MO, I agree with you on this. Thanks for the post. The more you allow these incidents to happen without consequences the more immaterial the border becomes.

By: James

James — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:48:00 +0000

MURDOC! DUDE! CHILL! I am all for making a point, but I think your point is a tad extreme. We are NOT in a military conflict with Mexico. We DO need to control our borders, we do NOT need air strikes on Mexico. Lets be blunt here. There is no realistic way for the US to seal the border without Mexican assistance. Without their help, to seal the border would not take the 82nd airborne, it would the entire US Marine corps.