Comments on: De-Surging http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/6574.html Just another WordPress weblog Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:32:29 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: AW1 Tim http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/6574.html/comment-page-1#comment-338018 AW1 Tim Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:45:35 +0000 http://www.murdoconline.net/?p=6574#comment-338018 I have a very bitter taste in my mouth from what happened to South Vietnam. We need to keep first and foremost that it was the Congress of the United States, a majority of whom were Democrats, who voted to remove funding for South Vietnam from our budget. The United States Military did not lose that war. We were never defeated there. We left the Republic of South Vietnam fully trained and capable of defending itself with our financial support to provide spare parts and ammunition. We felt that it would not be too very long until they could build their own factories to provide these items, or develop sufficiently their economy to purchase them as well. The Democrat-led Congress, in a snit over Richard Nixon, yanked all funding. They did it out of spite, and with a cavalier attitude towards the lives of millions of innocents in South East Asia. Despite the cessation of funds, the South held on for many months, and there were cases of extraordinary bravery by South Vietnamese soldiers and airmen. At the end, there were infantrymen with only 1 magazine of ammunition, pilots who took off to provide close air support with only enough fuel to get there and do the mission, not enough to come home. Thousands of brave Vietnamese lost their lives holding out for a few extra days, hours, or even minutes, to allow as many civilians as possible to evacuate from in front of an overwhelming tide of murderous North Vietnamese communists. In order to spite President Nixon, the Democrats allowed the greatest mass murders since Hitler and Stalin, and then congratulated themselves on their accomplishments. Many of them should have been tried and executed for crimes against humanity. Now, they wish to do the same thing to Iraq. God help those poor bastards in the Middle East, and God help us all if they try the same thing as they did more than 30 years ago, as the national stain from allowing that to happen a second time may never be washed away. I have a very bitter taste in my mouth from what happened to South Vietnam. We need to keep first and foremost that it was the Congress of the United States, a majority of whom were Democrats, who voted to remove funding for South Vietnam from our budget.

The United States Military did not lose that war. We were never defeated there. We left the Republic of South Vietnam fully trained and capable of defending itself with our financial support to provide spare parts and ammunition. We felt that it would not be too very long until they could build their own factories to provide these items, or develop sufficiently their economy to purchase them as well.

The Democrat-led Congress, in a snit over Richard Nixon, yanked all funding. They did it out of spite, and with a cavalier attitude towards the lives of millions of innocents in South East Asia.

Despite the cessation of funds, the South held on for many months, and there were cases of extraordinary bravery by South Vietnamese soldiers and airmen. At the end, there were infantrymen with only 1 magazine of ammunition, pilots who took off to provide close air support with only enough fuel to get there and do the mission, not enough to come home.

Thousands of brave Vietnamese lost their lives holding out for a few extra days, hours, or even minutes, to allow as many civilians as possible to evacuate from in front of an overwhelming tide of murderous North Vietnamese communists.

In order to spite President Nixon, the Democrats allowed the greatest mass murders since Hitler and Stalin, and then congratulated themselves on their accomplishments. Many of them should have been tried and executed for crimes against humanity.

Now, they wish to do the same thing to Iraq. God help those poor bastards in the Middle East, and God help us all if they try the same thing as they did more than 30 years ago, as the national stain from allowing that to happen a second time may never be washed away.

]]> By: Flanker http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/6574.html/comment-page-1#comment-338015 Flanker Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:05:33 +0000 http://www.murdoconline.net/?p=6574#comment-338015 Thanks for touching on the choice of "abandoning" in the author's description. We abandoned S. Vietnam (amongst too many others) at the end, it remains to be seen whether the Iraqui troop strength draw down will end up an abandonment or not. For now; it isn't. Reservations, such as you and Col Mansoor expressed are more than warranted. As much as we're viewed as foreign occupiers, even by some of our strongest Iraqi partners, I beleive we're also recognised as a religiously & politically neutral entity whose genuinely interested in establishing an Iraqi State, as opposed to several Iraqi enclaves. And of course having the BIG DOG standing behind you with all that capability and firepower is likely a reassuring thing, no matter how much you might wish to handle it completely by yourself. One thing's for sure.........it ain't over yet, in many senses of the term. Thanks for touching on the choice of “abandoning” in the author’s description. We abandoned S. Vietnam (amongst too many others) at the end, it remains to be seen whether the Iraqui troop strength draw down will end up an abandonment or not. For now; it isn’t.

Reservations, such as you and Col Mansoor expressed are more than warranted. As much as we’re viewed as foreign occupiers, even by some of our strongest Iraqi partners, I beleive we’re also recognised as a religiously & politically neutral entity
whose genuinely interested in establishing an Iraqi State, as opposed to several Iraqi enclaves. And of course having the BIG DOG standing behind you with all that capability and firepower is likely a reassuring thing, no matter how much you might wish to handle it completely by yourself.

One thing’s for sure………it ain’t over yet, in many senses of the term.

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