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By: Murdoc Online » Blog Archive » More on the M4 Replacement

Murdoc Online » Blog Archive » More on the M4 Replacement — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:26:21 +0000

[...] Army checked out offerings from manufacturers interested in producing a new carbine for the military yesterday. Here’s [...]

By: Daniel E. Watters

Daniel E. Watters — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:33:31 +0000

Coolhand77: Yes, it is my understanding that ParaOrd bought the rights to the Z/M LR300.

By: Coolhand77

Coolhand77 — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:54:33 +0000

Interesting…I just saw the PO Tactical Target Rifle…sucker looks like its got the ZM300 stock on it, and is supposed to have a “clean” DI gas system…which the ZM300 was supposed to have. I wonder if they just licensed the tech?

By: Vitor

Vitor — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:37:31 +0000

ITZNT REVOLUTIONARY ENOUF! LETZ WAIT FOR TEH LAZEERSSS!

By: James

James — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:53:21 +0000

Until the Joint Chiefs is lead by a SOF General there will be no change from the M4/M16. Though if Aliens attacked, I could see a change happening…maybe.

Anyway, my prediction, a testing and evaluation full of sound and fury and in the end nothing. The Army will claim that a change will cost too much and the funding will be shifted to some congressional pet project or to bailing out General Motors.

By: Vitor

Vitor — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:26:28 +0000

Did you guys see that the commercial release of the ACR/Masada was delayed for one year so they can concentrate on selling it to the army? Bushmaster really wants the defense bucks.

By: Daniel E. Watters

Daniel E. Watters — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:53:56 +0000

Oops! That should read $698, not $695.

By: Daniel E. Watters

Daniel E. Watters — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:37:26 +0000

“(just like the M16A4, which the Army purchases for less than half the cost of an M4)”

FWIW: Current M16A4 contracts run from $695 (FN Manufacturing) to $884 (Sabre Defence) per rifle. Colt’s current M4 contract runs $1,155 per carbine. However, this includes the BUIS and RAS. The M16A4 prices do not include these items.

By: Flanker

Flanker — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:15:28 +0000

Flanker suspects (for some ill defined reason possibly related to Murdoc’s prior observations about Flanker’s cynism :) )Murdoc’s suspicions are correct!

And………I’m guessing the Army is conducting these tests with the same enthusiasm I used to eat my asparagas (with Mom standing there glowering at me).

By: Vitor

Vitor — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:41:06 +0000

I asked cause Para-Ordnance will release a new rifle next year that they claim it has a “clean” DI

http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_rifle.php