Iran supplying SA-14 missiles to Taliban

SA-14 \'Gremlin\'

SA-14 'Gremlin'

Iran boosts Taliban’s artillery

Although the Iranians are not natural supporters of the Taliban, they have been willing to assist them in the past to prevent Britain and the US gaining influence in the region. Special forces have previously intercepted arms shipments from Iran that would have helped the Taliban intensify a roadside bombing campaign that has killed coalition troops over the past 18 months.

However, coalition forces became aware of the presence of SA-14s only two weeks ago when parts from two of them were discovered during a US operation in western Afghanistan.

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  1. ummmmmmm…..not artillery, anti-aircraft missle. I don’t see why we haven’t gone ahead and let Israel nuke ’em til they glow. Oh wait, that’s right, that’s what the liberals “think” that our military wants. Too bad we’re better than that.

  2. ADA = Air Defense Artillery

    I think it’s a historical term, AA used to be all guns. So now that term applies to missiles too, even though they aren’t *really* “artillery”

  3. In the US Army we have 2 separate branches of artillery, field artillery and ADA. The FA has SP guns and towed pieces, but it also has missiles like the MLRS. ADA used to have guns like the vulcan, but I think it is an all missile force now.

  4. If only we’d buddy up to the more moderate Iranian elements…….we could be pals again. Actually, I’m surprised the Russians haven’t arranged for some SAM payback; if I was them………….I would have.

  5. Nicholas, there’s a lot of blurring between artillery and rockets these days, what with the development of rocket assisted mortars and their converse, mortar assisted rockets. Even on the eastern front in the Second World War, Stalin Organs were essentially in an artillery role – and you can follow that line back through the Congreve Rocket to its inspiration, rocket propelled arrow barrages used against the British by hostile Indian rulers. And things like the Bloodhound blurred the line between rockets and jets for missiles…

  6. P.M.Lawrence, well in my mind, artillery is something that follows a high ballistic trajectory. Unguided rockets pretty much do, so it makes sense to me that they can be considered artillery. After all, big guns and unguided rockets are both basically area effect munitions.

    Guided missiles on the other hand, seem to have a different role. They’re far more precise. But on the other hand, they are taking over the roles of traditional artillery. Personally I would not call them artillery but I see why they get lumped in.

  7. Ok., I get the point, it’s ADA. But to me artillery will always be the stuff that you fire from one place, and lands in another. These go up, and aren’t supposed to come down. Back when air defense became necessary the artillery branch got stuck with the job because they had the guns that could reach that high. That is why it’s called ADArtillery. It’s true that for a long time it was all guns. If you are ambushing helicopters how is it still air DEFENCE artillery?

  8. @ Chad: When was the last time the military fired something into the air and didn’t have it come down? The missiles go up, and either hit and come down in pieces, or miss and self-destruct and come down in pieces. Either was, we haven’t left one up there yet.

    Try not to encourage the duck hunters too much, though. There was a move afoot a few years back to rename the branch “Air Attack Artillery”.

  9. @ Chad: When was the last time the military fired something into the air and didn’t have it come down? The missiles go up, and either hit and come down in pieces, or miss and self-destruct and come down in pieces. Either way, we haven’t left one up there yet.

    Try not to encourage the duck hunters too much, though. There was a move afoot a few years back to rename the branch “Air Attack Artillery”.

  10. Argh … double post.

    Well, to redeem it and just make it more confusing, if the common launcher program is successful, the Army will end up with a wheeled platform with a launcher able to either fire artillery rockets (GMLRS/ATACMS) or SLAMRAAM. Maybe then we’ll call them Air Defense/Artillery?

  11. I shot an Gremlin into the air,
    It fell to earth, I knew not where;
    Arty or missile I could not care;
    For, so swiftly it flew, out of sight
    I could not follow it in its flight.
    Who knows where it when;
    As long as it made a great big dent.

  12. Oh! So the hole in building roof next to our compound is YOUR fault! You’ll be hearing from our attorneys!

  13. Hawk, I said it’s not supposed to come back down. Meaning detonate in the air. Were you talking about the NLOS-L system? Looks like a great idea to me. You can mount it on trucks, ships, set them on a perimeter, almost anywhere with enough room and a power supply.

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