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		<title>By: 11Bravo</title>
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		<dc:creator>11Bravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 22:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeager did fly the F-20.  I think he worked for Northrop as a test pilot or consultant.  I can&#039;t find the AC Delco commercial, but I do seem to remember what you described.  Here is a video of him promoting the F-20.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa0V_5Eo_8s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeager did fly the F-20.  I think he worked for Northrop as a test pilot or consultant.  I can&#8217;t find the AC Delco commercial, but I do seem to remember what you described.  Here is a video of him promoting the F-20.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa0V_5Eo_8s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa0V_5Eo_8s</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fort Worth Squatch</title>
		<link>http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/7677.html/comment-page-1#comment-342444</link>
		<dc:creator>Fort Worth Squatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I remember correctly, those Chuck Yeager commercials were for AC Delco auto parts.  Seems like batteries in particular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I remember correctly, those Chuck Yeager commercials were for AC Delco auto parts.  Seems like batteries in particular.</p>
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		<title>By: 11Bravo</title>
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		<dc:creator>11Bravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 15:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are worried about an army and whether it will be used against the country, then you probably don&#039;t support having a large standing army in the first place which is what our founders believed.

Of course if you want to have an army involved in locations throughout the world, then you probably support a large, diverse force, not because it represents the diversity of the nation, but because it represents the diversity of the areas in which it will operate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are worried about an army and whether it will be used against the country, then you probably don&#8217;t support having a large standing army in the first place which is what our founders believed.</p>
<p>Of course if you want to have an army involved in locations throughout the world, then you probably support a large, diverse force, not because it represents the diversity of the nation, but because it represents the diversity of the areas in which it will operate.</p>
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		<title>By: Bram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 13:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought Mexico bought Tigersharks.</description>
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		<title>By: P.M.Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>P.M.Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 23:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;I’m curious WHY an army would “accurately reflect the diversity of its people.”&#039;

That&#039;s an idea derived from a deeper one about making constitutional machinery work. That underlying idea is to have armed forces &lt;i&gt;of&lt;/i&gt; a country, not &lt;i&gt;over&lt;/i&gt; it. If they are &quot;the people&quot;, the &quot;nation in arms&quot;, the thinking goes, they can&#039;t be used against the people.

It&#039;s sound if you take it deep enough and really think things through, but you can still have military coups even in countries that have mass conscription in an attempt to head that off. The problem is that the NCO structure can keep the conscripts in order, maybe in barracks, while the coup goes ahead. The constitutional shared interests don&#039;t work as a simple aggregate.

There was a very similar justification for having purchased commissions, in an era where there was a ruling class, to make the armed forces share interests with the ruling class (and so with the country). With experience of the French Revolution, where efficiency reforms had previously got rid of a &lt;i&gt;Garde de Corps&lt;/i&gt; loyal to the king, even fine soldiers like the Duke of Wellington thought that Britain would be better served by a loyal officer corps than by an efficient one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I’m curious WHY an army would “accurately reflect the diversity of its people.”&#8217;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an idea derived from a deeper one about making constitutional machinery work. That underlying idea is to have armed forces <i>of</i> a country, not <i>over</i> it. If they are &#8220;the people&#8221;, the &#8220;nation in arms&#8221;, the thinking goes, they can&#8217;t be used against the people.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sound if you take it deep enough and really think things through, but you can still have military coups even in countries that have mass conscription in an attempt to head that off. The problem is that the NCO structure can keep the conscripts in order, maybe in barracks, while the coup goes ahead. The constitutional shared interests don&#8217;t work as a simple aggregate.</p>
<p>There was a very similar justification for having purchased commissions, in an era where there was a ruling class, to make the armed forces share interests with the ruling class (and so with the country). With experience of the French Revolution, where efficiency reforms had previously got rid of a <i>Garde de Corps</i> loyal to the king, even fine soldiers like the Duke of Wellington thought that Britain would be better served by a loyal officer corps than by an efficient one.</p>
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		<title>By: KTLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>KTLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 20:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;We’re at the forefront of freedom throughout the world, and yet we have an army that doesn’t accurately reflect the diversity of its people.”&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m curious WHY an army would &quot;accurately reflect the diversity of its people.&quot;  An army is a machine with a job, and that machine runs however damn well the folks in charge want to run it, and carefully aligning the racial or religous makup to match US census data is just stupid.  The goal is strong defense, not strong multiculturalism.  I&#039;m surprised to hear a comment like that from someone who is apparentl third or fourth generation military.

That being said, if the army told them they it wasn&#039;t going to be a problem BEFORE they signed up, then the army needs to stand by that and accomodate them one way or another.  Just make sure you don&#039;t tell any MORE incoming folks that kind of lie.  The army made its bed in THIS case when it lied up front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;We’re at the forefront of freedom throughout the world, and yet we have an army that doesn’t accurately reflect the diversity of its people.”</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious WHY an army would &#8220;accurately reflect the diversity of its people.&#8221;  An army is a machine with a job, and that machine runs however damn well the folks in charge want to run it, and carefully aligning the racial or religous makup to match US census data is just stupid.  The goal is strong defense, not strong multiculturalism.  I&#8217;m surprised to hear a comment like that from someone who is apparentl third or fourth generation military.</p>
<p>That being said, if the army told them they it wasn&#8217;t going to be a problem BEFORE they signed up, then the army needs to stand by that and accomodate them one way or another.  Just make sure you don&#8217;t tell any MORE incoming folks that kind of lie.  The army made its bed in THIS case when it lied up front.</p>
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		<title>By: P.M.Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>P.M.Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 06:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Toejam, utterly wrong. Sikhs only ever offer to sign up to armed forces on a &quot;take me as I am&quot; basis (the ones that are willing to change are called &quot;mechanical Sikhs&quot;, and don&#039;t count as real Sikhs to the others - and aren&#039;t of their calibre). Lying to them about wahat they are in for in sets up far more trouble later, as Indira Gandhi found. If the US military doesn&#039;t want to deal on that basis, fair enough, but it shouldn&#039;t try to make them what they aren&#039;t, it should back off trying to get them. Because there &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; be more trouble than it&#039;s worth otherwise. Even if it is a US tradition to lie to potential recruits, this is a case where it doesn&#039;t pay off. You might as well insist on shaving military dogs for all the good it would do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Toejam, utterly wrong. Sikhs only ever offer to sign up to armed forces on a &#8220;take me as I am&#8221; basis (the ones that are willing to change are called &#8220;mechanical Sikhs&#8221;, and don&#8217;t count as real Sikhs to the others &#8211; and aren&#8217;t of their calibre). Lying to them about wahat they are in for in sets up far more trouble later, as Indira Gandhi found. If the US military doesn&#8217;t want to deal on that basis, fair enough, but it shouldn&#8217;t try to make them what they aren&#8217;t, it should back off trying to get them. Because there <i>will</i> be more trouble than it&#8217;s worth otherwise. Even if it is a US tradition to lie to potential recruits, this is a case where it doesn&#8217;t pay off. You might as well insist on shaving military dogs for all the good it would do.</p>
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		<title>By: Toejam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toejam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 07:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Army tells Sikh officers to change appearance

Torn between their Sikh faith and their military duty, two soldiers are fighting Army policy that requires them to shave their beards, cut their hair and remove their turbans.

“I don’t think it’s fair for anybody to ask me to choose between my religion and my country,” Capt. Kamaljeet Kalsi said. “Shaving my beard and taking off my turban — these are part of my body. It’s part of my being.”&lt;/i&gt;

Tough, sikh-heads.

When I &quot;enlisted&quot; in the Marine Corp one of the first utterances (albeit a trite phrase) I heard from my D.I. as ALL my hair fell to the floor was:

&lt;b&gt;Your soul may belong to God, but your ASS belongs to the Corps!)&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Army tells Sikh officers to change appearance</p>
<p>Torn between their Sikh faith and their military duty, two soldiers are fighting Army policy that requires them to shave their beards, cut their hair and remove their turbans.</p>
<p>“I don’t think it’s fair for anybody to ask me to choose between my religion and my country,” Capt. Kamaljeet Kalsi said. “Shaving my beard and taking off my turban — these are part of my body. It’s part of my being.”</i></p>
<p>Tough, sikh-heads.</p>
<p>When I &#8220;enlisted&#8221; in the Marine Corp one of the first utterances (albeit a trite phrase) I heard from my D.I. as ALL my hair fell to the floor was:</p>
<p><b>Your soul may belong to God, but your ASS belongs to the Corps!)</b></p>
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		<title>By: derrderr420</title>
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		<dc:creator>derrderr420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 03:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking forward to six days in fallujah dammit

my 5 would be
M1911 LTC Para
a classic redone in acceptable style, and it doesn&#039;t destroy my hands
SOCCOM MK23
supposedly it handles better than the average USP
S&amp;W N frame Model 29
 do i have to explain?
Walther P99 or S&amp;W SW99
It just feels weird, in a good way, like it wants to make love to my hand while it shoots (no pun intended) 
Remington 700BDL
the action on this thing just feels smooth, solid and consistent, whether or not the barrel is cold and empty, or warm and full of lead build-up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking forward to six days in fallujah dammit</p>
<p>my 5 would be<br />
M1911 LTC Para<br />
a classic redone in acceptable style, and it doesn&#8217;t destroy my hands<br />
SOCCOM MK23<br />
supposedly it handles better than the average USP<br />
S&amp;W N frame Model 29<br />
 do i have to explain?<br />
Walther P99 or S&amp;W SW99<br />
It just feels weird, in a good way, like it wants to make love to my hand while it shoots (no pun intended)<br />
Remington 700BDL<br />
the action on this thing just feels smooth, solid and consistent, whether or not the barrel is cold and empty, or warm and full of lead build-up</p>
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		<title>By: P.M.Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>P.M.Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 02:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US Army should look into how the British and later the Indians dealt with the Sikh issue. I wonder what they (or transport security, come to that) will make of another of their &quot;five Ks&quot; religious requirements, to carry a concealed blade...

On guns, the FEMA has long struck me as a very good choice, though I would prefer it with a higher calibre. So maybe the H &amp; K G3? And the Calico range is appealing, particularly for pistols, but I regret to say I&#039;m not too sure about their reliability in field conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US Army should look into how the British and later the Indians dealt with the Sikh issue. I wonder what they (or transport security, come to that) will make of another of their &#8220;five Ks&#8221; religious requirements, to carry a concealed blade&#8230;</p>
<p>On guns, the FEMA has long struck me as a very good choice, though I would prefer it with a higher calibre. So maybe the H &amp; K G3? And the Calico range is appealing, particularly for pistols, but I regret to say I&#8217;m not too sure about their reliability in field conditions.</p>
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