Osprey: Sparing models based on reality, not predictions

Aviation Week: V-22 Faces Mission Capable Rates Issues

In addition to the availability rate concerns, Marine Ospreys seem to be too hard on LPD and LSD decks. They’re trying to address that by pointing the wings a little more forward.

No mention is made of the effect this has on payload for take-off.


  1. The only way to reduce weight on t/o without reducing payload is to reduce the fuel weight, get airborne, then tank enroute.

    The problem with this is that the Navy has removed the S-3 from the fleet, which was an excellent tanking platform. Now all they have are F-18’s with buddy packs.

    That means scheduling tanking ops with Airforce tankers, which means long range planning and operating close enough to shore-based tankers to have adequate support in case of divert or mission mods.

    Another fine example of the law of unintended consequences.

  2. Joe: Actually, that’s an excellent point. It’s clearly about idling on deck. Maybe they can tilt the wings until take-off, then rotate them to normal for take-off and not suffer payload loss.

    Good catch.

  3. Heh,

    Why yes, my friend, yes it is. I have a little over 5K hours in them, plus some S-3 and helo time… 🙂

    Let me tell you that one of the biggest blowbacks in the fleet was when Pax River started experimenting with in-flight refueling for P-3’s. It was like we were to become the eternal patrol….. sigh.

  4. Oh, FWIW, that image was taken by a crew from VP-8, and that plane is LD-7, from VP-10, a P-3B, BuNo 152750. I’m onboard her when that pic was taken.


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