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	<title>Comments on: Vetoing the Raptors?</title>
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		<title>By: 11Bravo</title>
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		<dc:creator>11Bravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The F-35 might have been a great platform, but too much went into  making the F-35B version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The F-35 might have been a great platform, but too much went into  making the F-35B version.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James that would be great but the reason it won&#039;t happen is the same reason why U.S. Soldiers will still be firing .223 calibre rifles in 2400AD... &quot;it&#039;s too hard/expensive to change it now&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James that would be great but the reason it won&#8217;t happen is the same reason why U.S. Soldiers will still be firing .223 calibre rifles in 2400AD&#8230; &#8220;it&#8217;s too hard/expensive to change it now&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you read the program specs on the F-35 you find out that it will not even be capable of the air to air combat until 2017 assuming the programing schedule holds firm. Till then you just have a great big target. 

The F-35 is not a fighter. It is a light bomber, which is what we do not need. We have plenty of bomb trucks, but we lack top end fighters. Make a Naval variant of the F-22, build the VSTOL F-35 and sell our allies the F-35. Back fill our second ranks with new F-15&#039;s and bulk up the numbers with UCAV&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read the program specs on the F-35 you find out that it will not even be capable of the air to air combat until 2017 assuming the programing schedule holds firm. Till then you just have a great big target. </p>
<p>The F-35 is not a fighter. It is a light bomber, which is what we do not need. We have plenty of bomb trucks, but we lack top end fighters. Make a Naval variant of the F-22, build the VSTOL F-35 and sell our allies the F-35. Back fill our second ranks with new F-15&#8217;s and bulk up the numbers with UCAV&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Thursday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thursday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the Russians and Chinese certainly seem worried about the F-22, given all the hubbub about domestic attempts at 5th generation fighters. Last I checked, both parties are still looking to acquire new &quot;protectorate&quot; territory. Maybe no one wants a land war in Germany any more, but how many shenanigans are we willing to tolerate in the Caucasus, Central Asian Republics, Koreas, and Taiwan?&quot;

The F-35A actually isn&#039;t too bad; the on-paper stats can be misleading. For example: it has a similar thrust/weight ratio to a Viper once you burn off a third of the onboard fuel (which would be carried on drop tanks on an F-16). However, I wouldn&#039;t want to bring a B or C model JSF within visual range of more than an equal number of hostiles.

I don&#039;t know why the Air Force is so irked at continuing the GE engine. Dad flew F-16&#039;s in both the P&amp;W and GE engine versions. He said it was no contest; the GE gave more thrust, didn&#039;t break as much, and pretty much ran itself, while the P&amp;W engine required pilots to keep complicated operation parameters in mind even during fights to avoid compressor stalls and other failures inconvenient to a single-engine jet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the Russians and Chinese certainly seem worried about the F-22, given all the hubbub about domestic attempts at 5th generation fighters. Last I checked, both parties are still looking to acquire new &#8220;protectorate&#8221; territory. Maybe no one wants a land war in Germany any more, but how many shenanigans are we willing to tolerate in the Caucasus, Central Asian Republics, Koreas, and Taiwan?&#8221;</p>
<p>The F-35A actually isn&#8217;t too bad; the on-paper stats can be misleading. For example: it has a similar thrust/weight ratio to a Viper once you burn off a third of the onboard fuel (which would be carried on drop tanks on an F-16). However, I wouldn&#8217;t want to bring a B or C model JSF within visual range of more than an equal number of hostiles.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why the Air Force is so irked at continuing the GE engine. Dad flew F-16&#8217;s in both the P&amp;W and GE engine versions. He said it was no contest; the GE gave more thrust, didn&#8217;t break as much, and pretty much ran itself, while the P&amp;W engine required pilots to keep complicated operation parameters in mind even during fights to avoid compressor stalls and other failures inconvenient to a single-engine jet.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are they actively trying to undermine the US Military and American interests?

Oh, right...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they actively trying to undermine the US Military and American interests?</p>
<p>Oh, right&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better than the antiquated F-35, a sub-par plane that without stealth, could be worse than a F-16.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better than the antiquated F-35, a sub-par plane that without stealth, could be worse than a F-16.</p>
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		<title>By: Toejam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toejam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Congressman &lt;b&gt;Barney (limp-wrist) Frank&lt;/b&gt; (D-Mass) who was interviewed by Bill O&#039;Reilly on Fox News Wednesday the F-22 Raptor is an antiquated relic of the &quot;cold war&quot; since it was designed to fight a land war in Europe against the invading Russians and their hoards of MIGs and Main Battle tanks.

He and the rest of his Democrat &lt;i&gt;Progressives&lt;/i&gt; intend to axe all future monetary allowcations to the Raptor program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Congressman <b>Barney (limp-wrist) Frank</b> (D-Mass) who was interviewed by Bill O&#8217;Reilly on Fox News Wednesday the F-22 Raptor is an antiquated relic of the &#8220;cold war&#8221; since it was designed to fight a land war in Europe against the invading Russians and their hoards of MIGs and Main Battle tanks.</p>
<p>He and the rest of his Democrat <i>Progressives</i> intend to axe all future monetary allowcations to the Raptor program.</p>
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