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	<title>Comments on: Friday Linkzookery &#8211; 04 Sep 2009</title>
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		<title>By: Hazel</title>
		<link>http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/8535.html/comment-page-1#comment-343513</link>
		<dc:creator>Hazel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas:
The historical agricultural influence (early anthropocene) theory is being pushed by William Ruddiman and some of his mates. It&#039;s a neat theory, but as of yet can&#039;t be falsified. With luck the new ice cores will have enough resolution to tell us more about the last few millennia!

Reinhardt: 
bit of a classic golden mean fallacy there, eh old chap?

Murdoc: 
don&#039;t bother getting climate research papers from the press or bloggers. They misquote, misinterpret, and only report the few headline-grabbing &#039;sexy&#039; studies. Go for some climate science digests if you want an unbiased sample. A good rule is that if policy is ever suggested, it&#039;s not something that showed up in a peer-reviewed journal (unless it&#039;s about geo-engineering). Lefties and righties misquoting the &quot;other side&#039;s&quot; poor interpretation of research results has fueled most of the foolish public &quot;debate&quot; over climate change.  

Oh, and Obama&#039;s speech seems like the only positive thing US schools have seen in awhile. Wouldn&#039;t catch my kids in those mc-job training factories. Congrats on the homeschooling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas:<br />
The historical agricultural influence (early anthropocene) theory is being pushed by William Ruddiman and some of his mates. It&#8217;s a neat theory, but as of yet can&#8217;t be falsified. With luck the new ice cores will have enough resolution to tell us more about the last few millennia!</p>
<p>Reinhardt:<br />
bit of a classic golden mean fallacy there, eh old chap?</p>
<p>Murdoc:<br />
don&#8217;t bother getting climate research papers from the press or bloggers. They misquote, misinterpret, and only report the few headline-grabbing &#8216;sexy&#8217; studies. Go for some climate science digests if you want an unbiased sample. A good rule is that if policy is ever suggested, it&#8217;s not something that showed up in a peer-reviewed journal (unless it&#8217;s about geo-engineering). Lefties and righties misquoting the &#8220;other side&#8217;s&#8221; poor interpretation of research results has fueled most of the foolish public &#8220;debate&#8221; over climate change.  </p>
<p>Oh, and Obama&#8217;s speech seems like the only positive thing US schools have seen in awhile. Wouldn&#8217;t catch my kids in those mc-job training factories. Congrats on the homeschooling.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil C. Reinhardt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil C. Reinhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Toejam, (youngster to me) 

Your link on the missing Russian ship sounds like it was written by some of the loony tunes of the &quot;9-11 Truthers&quot; and/or those who wear their little Tin Hats and talk to life forms from far, far out in space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Toejam, (youngster to me) </p>
<p>Your link on the missing Russian ship sounds like it was written by some of the loony tunes of the &#8220;9-11 Truthers&#8221; and/or those who wear their little Tin Hats and talk to life forms from far, far out in space.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil C. Reinhardt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil C. Reinhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1, Anyone who says there is NO Global Warming is an IDIOT!

2, Anyone who says we Humans are responsible for ALL the Global Warming is as big an IDIOT as in # 1,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1, Anyone who says there is NO Global Warming is an IDIOT!</p>
<p>2, Anyone who says we Humans are responsible for ALL the Global Warming is as big an IDIOT as in # 1,</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flanker, there is a serious possibility that human activities have prolonged the current interglacial. As I understand it, this interglacial period (the &quot;Holocene&quot;) is the longest such period during the current ice age (yes, we are in an ice age, there are significant amounts of ice at the poles).

There is serious research that suggests that agriculture may be responsible. Or it could just be random variations in climate. It&#039;s hard to know...

I don&#039;t think the particular study has anything to say about it one way or the other though, for the reasons I mentioned above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flanker, there is a serious possibility that human activities have prolonged the current interglacial. As I understand it, this interglacial period (the &#8220;Holocene&#8221;) is the longest such period during the current ice age (yes, we are in an ice age, there are significant amounts of ice at the poles).</p>
<p>There is serious research that suggests that agriculture may be responsible. Or it could just be random variations in climate. It&#8217;s hard to know&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the particular study has anything to say about it one way or the other though, for the reasons I mentioned above.</p>
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		<title>By: Flanker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flanker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Global Warming saving us from the ice age was funny.  Though I don&#039;t know which way to run now, as far as buying end of the world supplies (a life raft and swim suits vs thermal under wear and lots of fuel for the heater).  

I&#039;ll have to bring this up with my left wing stoner friends.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Global Warming saving us from the ice age was funny.  Though I don&#8217;t know which way to run now, as far as buying end of the world supplies (a life raft and swim suits vs thermal under wear and lots of fuel for the heater).  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to bring this up with my left wing stoner friends.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: 11 Bravo</title>
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		<dc:creator>11 Bravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those 100 year old photos are amazing.  I think this is the second time you have linked to a collection of pre-Bolshevik  color photos.  The bridges and buildings appear more advanced than what is in a lot of nations today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those 100 year old photos are amazing.  I think this is the second time you have linked to a collection of pre-Bolshevik  color photos.  The bridges and buildings appear more advanced than what is in a lot of nations today.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 03:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NY Times article (last link) is based on what at this stage seems to be a highly flawed study (not all the data and methods are available to fully check yet) so I wouldn&#039;t place too much weight on it. Among other problems, they used some data series upside-down, they used obsolete versions of some series, many of the series are truncated or incomplete, some of the series are definitely not temperature proxies and others arguably aren&#039;t. So I would just ignore it.

See ClimateAudit.org for details.

This is just &quot;Business as usual&quot;, the same group of people putting out flawed studies with biased conclusions and having them plastered all over the media before they can be properly checked. After they&#039;re checked and found invalid, we won&#039;t hear a peep out of the media about it.

As for the solar panels in the road, what happens at night or on a cloudy day? Are there going to be huge battery banks somewhere to store the energy from the day time? If not all they can do is replace peaking power some of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NY Times article (last link) is based on what at this stage seems to be a highly flawed study (not all the data and methods are available to fully check yet) so I wouldn&#8217;t place too much weight on it. Among other problems, they used some data series upside-down, they used obsolete versions of some series, many of the series are truncated or incomplete, some of the series are definitely not temperature proxies and others arguably aren&#8217;t. So I would just ignore it.</p>
<p>See ClimateAudit.org for details.</p>
<p>This is just &#8220;Business as usual&#8221;, the same group of people putting out flawed studies with biased conclusions and having them plastered all over the media before they can be properly checked. After they&#8217;re checked and found invalid, we won&#8217;t hear a peep out of the media about it.</p>
<p>As for the solar panels in the road, what happens at night or on a cloudy day? Are there going to be huge battery banks somewhere to store the energy from the day time? If not all they can do is replace peaking power some of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Toejam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toejam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 09:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember the &quot;hi-Jacked&quot; Russian ship (The Artic sea)?

This sight gives an interesting twist to the ongoing saga:

http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=3008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the &#8220;hi-Jacked&#8221; Russian ship (The Artic sea)?</p>
<p>This sight gives an interesting twist to the ongoing saga:</p>
<p><a href="http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=3008" rel="nofollow">http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=3008</a></p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, the idea of a road based solar power sounds to good to be true, but if they could at least heat the roads to prevent ice &amp; snow build up I would gladly support a gas tax increase... and so would the bridge I hit doing the ice dance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, the idea of a road based solar power sounds to good to be true, but if they could at least heat the roads to prevent ice &amp; snow build up I would gladly support a gas tax increase&#8230; and so would the bridge I hit doing the ice dance.</p>
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		<title>By: Toejam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toejam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might have posted this in the comment section before. So forgive me if I did. A my age the old memory starts to fade.

If you&#039;re into military aircraft and airshows take a gander here:

http://www.stevesairshow.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might have posted this in the comment section before. So forgive me if I did. A my age the old memory starts to fade.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re into military aircraft and airshows take a gander here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stevesairshow.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stevesairshow.com/</a></p>
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